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by perga
Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:38 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Proctor's Nano Shampoo
Replies: 27
Views: 15304

Proctor's Nano Shampoo

Has anybody used this and gotten results? I'm thinking of changing up shampoos.

Thanks
by perga
Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:02 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

Well, I still think Elsom is helping, but at this point I can clearly say it is not going to give any significant regrowth for me. Also, I've been on Fin with dosage varying from 1mg down to .6mg and now back up to .72mg daily for almost 3 years. I have come to the conclusion that if your hair wants...
by perga
Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:38 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

@justthin: no new pics at the moment, I need a few months of solid recovery time from all these recent sheds before I post any new pics. I will say though, since I have started rerubbing this stuff in again, there is no doubt that hairs have sprouted up at the temples. My head as a whole is still a trainwreck, but I do see some incremental improvement.

@Joey: Here is my full regimen of late...

Shampoo: Rotate between the following: Elsom Micellerin Green, Nioxin System 2 shamp+cond, and Nizoral 2%
Topicals: Every Morning = Lamas Scalp Serum, Every Afternoon (without washing head): Super Zix II, Rotation at night (with washing head + rerubbing the topicals): Elsom Scalpxtreme, juveline, and nanoscalp.
Internals: about 0.6mg finasteride daily.

I have dropped the vitamins, as I believe they were giving me brain fog and headaches. I plan on reintroducing them one at a time to find out which was giving me the issue.

I have also stopped (at least temporarily) the laser helmet... I have finally come to the conclusion that it wasn't doing %&$!, and was taking way too much of my time.

Some comments... I stopped using Super Zix II for about 2 months. There is absolutely no doubt that the super zix is helping. If I fail to apply super zix in the afternoon, my head is ALWAYS itchy by night. One application of lamas is simply not enough to hold my head over for 12+ hours.

Also, I am not the biggest fan of the nioxin. I feel like the shampoo is overly harsh, and I plan on changing it to something else.

In any case, the regimen above has stabilized my recent shed, and given me sprouts along the hair line. I plan on continuing it for at least a couple months and see if I can't grow back some of this hair I just lost.
by perga
Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:27 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

OKAY, I haven't updated in a while, and last I commented I was shedding pretty badly. Fortunately, that has changed, and my head is back to feeling great. I have figured out what caused the shed in the first place, and to anyone using Elsom topicals I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend you do this (it A...
by perga
Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:35 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: about histogen
Replies: 6
Views: 4148

Re: about histogen

That can't be right... unless some of those proteins are WNT signaling. Their entire selling point was "WNT pathway makes new follicles!" Anybody know if any of those are WNT signaling molecules?
by perga
Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:55 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Does anyone else find it irritating
Replies: 12
Views: 6893

Re: Does anyone else find it irritating

I don't use the elsom terminals, I use a couple of different Elsom products. I blame the beginning of this shed on starting lamas... it started out looking like a "good" shed, but it lasted a lot longer than I think it should have. I think I may have figured it out though... back when I was going go...
by perga
Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:20 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Does anyone else find it irritating
Replies: 12
Views: 6893

Re: Does anyone else find it irritating

@Joey, the hair growing side effect of finasteride was also discovered by accident. The drug was (and still is) intended for people with prostate issues. Hopefully I was just being over dramatic with this thread. I have been shedding pretty brutally for like a month and a half now with no signs of i...
by perga
Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:00 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Does anyone else find it irritating
Replies: 12
Views: 6893

Does anyone else find it irritating

That the most effective products for hair loss were discovered by accident 20-30 years ago?
by perga
Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:13 pm
Forum: General Hair Loss Discussions
Topic: Scientists discover the secret of ageing- plays down the role of telomeres
Replies: 6
Views: 4936

Re: Scientists discover the secret of ageing- plays down the role of telomeres

Though I could most definitely respond to all that, I shall refrain. This is a hair loss website, and we are balding brothers and sisters... why muck that up with unnecessary controversy. Besides, you know all the good hair loss products, so I don't want to get on your bad side and end up nairing my...
by perga
Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:22 pm
Forum: General Hair Loss Discussions
Topic: Scientists discover the secret of ageing- plays down the role of telomeres
Replies: 6
Views: 4936

Re: Scientists discover the secret of ageing- plays down the role of telomeres

If you are a creationist, evolution is the wrong battle to fight. There are mountains of data supporting the theory of evolution. A better target would be the origins of the first cell... which is yet to be truly explained (and reproduced). There are some cool theories about the origins of life thou...
by perga
Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:06 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Dermatopoietin-activates expression of all skin tissue relevant growth and differentiation factors like HGF, KGF and TNF-alpha
Replies: 181
Views: 284339

Re: Dermatopoietin-activates expression of all skin tissue relevant growth and differentiation factors like HGF, KGF and TNF-alpha

All great news. I still have this one in my closet, haven't used it yet though.

If you haven't gotten in touch with them yet Jacob, could you ask the shelf life on an unopened bottle as well?
by perga
Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:51 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: check out trx2 revujination
Replies: 3
Views: 2375

Re: check out trx2 revujination

guy graduates with a biochemistry degree from oxford and his way of helping is to make some BS site telling us about green tea and revivogen? How is him making money off the ad revenue solving our problems?

hope he goes bald
by perga
Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:51 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: TrichoScience is developing a non-surgical hair cell restoration procedure
Replies: 5
Views: 3441

Re: TrichoScience is developing a non-surgical hair cell restoration procedure

Old news Jacob! Where have you been on this one!? :roll: jk

I emailed them a while back asking when they would have a product (as their website makes it seem like its just around the corner), and they said they were still pre-clinical. HM is still a pipe dream at this point.
by perga
Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:45 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: A&G Hair Complex plus- trials
Replies: 335
Views: 561089

Re: A&G Hair Complex plus- trials

I said starting and stopping treatments. You just said you stopped dermatopioten prior to starting the A&G trial. The ideal experiment to test A&G's effectiveness would have all stray variables removed, which means no changes to your regimen other than A&G. Now, I'm not saying your results are meani...
by perga
Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:22 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: A&G Hair Complex plus- trials
Replies: 335
Views: 561089

Re: A&G Hair Complex plus- trials

i think you are all being far too hasty with your conclusions... personally, I always shed between the 1-2 mark after starting a treatment. 3-4 months is when you start seeing results. also, starting and stopping all sorts of other treatments around the time you did this really doesn't do much to he...
by perga
Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:47 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Oral Probiotic Reduces Severe Dandruff in Small Study
Replies: 16
Views: 11437

Re: Oral Probiotic Reduces Severe Dandruff in Small Study

are there any yogurts that have this stuff in it? or can you recommend some good yogurts for overall health benefits?

i've had some probiotic kefir (brand) before, which wasn't bad. anything you suggest though?
by perga
Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:36 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Oral Probiotic Reduces Severe Dandruff in Small Study
Replies: 16
Views: 11437

Re: Oral Probiotic Reduces Severe Dandruff in Small Study

Yay! An angle I haven't attacked hair loss from! I may get these as well
by perga
Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:34 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells
Replies: 131
Views: 121631

Re: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells

I started this topical around 1.5-2 months ago, the past 3 weeks has been some pretty brutal shedding. This has always been a good sign for me (and most of the hairs were of the weaker variety). I, for one, will be sticking through the shed. I have high hopes for this topical.
by perga
Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:29 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Styling Products
Replies: 10
Views: 5618

Re: Styling Products

PS: I bought American Crew Fiber... it is not all natural, but I'll let you know what I think of it regardless.
by perga
Fri Jan 29, 2010 7:34 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Styling Products
Replies: 10
Views: 5618

Re: Styling Products

Well... it's... a lot. I do all of the following... Internals: ~.72mg Finasteride Astragalus Supplement (not really taking it for hair, but I've heard it might be beneficial) Maxi Hair supp Tocotrienols supp Curcumin supp Resveratrol supp Multi-vitamin w/ saw palmetto and other crap Topicals Alterna...
by perga
Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:27 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Styling Products
Replies: 10
Views: 5618

Re: Styling Products

You mean for my hair loss regimen? Or styling stuff?
by perga
Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:53 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Styling Products
Replies: 10
Views: 5618

Styling Products

YOOoo, so I have decided to start styling my hair, and I am wondering if there are any all natural styling products that don't leave your hair looking greasy (at all), but provide lots of hold so I can do some messy/spiky type of deal. Also, if there are any that would actually be GOOD for my hair, ...
by perga
Sun Jan 24, 2010 9:34 am
Forum: Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) for Hair Loss
Topic: Researching laser treatment variations for blondes. Need info from past/present blonde users
Replies: 6
Views: 5639

Re: Researching laser treatment variations for blondes. Need info from past/present blonde users

I am 26, blonde, lasering for a long time... probably like 18 months. maybe 160 diodes in 2 spots for 20 minutes 3 times a week. As I said several times before, I think lasers are a good adjunct treatment. There is no doubt that my scalp feels better after a laser session. That said, there is no way...
by perga
Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:55 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

Also, I should note... I did not drop Super Zix entirely. I alternate mornings between super zix and Lamas. I highly recommend no one DROP a topical out of the blue and replace it with another. I think shocks like that cause big time sheds if you have been using the topical for a long time (I know f...
by perga
Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:51 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

Okay, so I am past the 6 month mark. My hair is definitely improved. Six months ago I was shedding like mad, my hair was not in very good health, though I thought it was. At this point, I have seen thickening of my existing hair, and some minor regrowth. The real difference is in the quality of exis...
by perga
Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:13 pm
Forum: General Hair Loss Discussions
Topic: Hormones Discussion + Questions
Replies: 1
Views: 2019

Hormones Discussion + Questions

Okay! So a number of you are far more educated on the topic than I, so I would like to pick your brains. My main reason for looking into this is some brain fog I get from fin + my supplements. Here is a nifty little SVG showing the production of hormones and several enzymes along the way. http://upl...
by perga
Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:34 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells
Replies: 131
Views: 121631

Re: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells

The Lamas hair cream smells amaaazing. It's so nice to put something on my head that doesn't smell like %&$! hahah.

I emailed Dr. Y about any holiday sales and he said no, but he said they might be more generous with freebies around this time.
by perga
Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:30 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Dermatopoietin or TB4-7 Anyone? Can we please have some updates!
Replies: 14
Views: 9028

Re: Dermatopoietin or TB4-7 Anyone? Can we please have some updates!

joanne, what do you think of LLLT as a standalone treatment? I've done it for ages now (must be 16-18 months), but I do so much other crap, I don't know what, if any, results are from LLLT. Have you seen any significant improvement that you KNOW to be from LLLT?
by perga
Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:10 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Thymosin beta 4
Replies: 171
Views: 131934

Re: Thymosin beta 4

What concentration is being used in the study described on the adistem page, and what concentration is the cream being sold at?

Somebody should get this and report back... got some potential imo.
by perga
Tue Dec 01, 2009 3:35 pm
Forum: Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) for Hair Loss
Topic: [VOLTAGE]Wrong calculations ?
Replies: 3
Views: 3321

Re: [VOLTAGE]Wrong calculations ?

I haven't checked into any of it... but my guess is the 5mW is the power output of the diode in terms of light. I believe there is also a little resistor on each diodes board that would also consume power... etc. Basically it means that the diodes are not converting 100% of the energy supplied to th...
by perga
Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:45 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Dermatopoietin-activates expression of all skin tissue relevant growth and differentiation factors like HGF, KGF and TNF-alpha
Replies: 181
Views: 284339

Re: Dermatopoietin-activates expression of all skin tissue relevant growth and differentiation factors like HGF, KGF and TNF-alpha

Updates pleaseee...

Joanne, how is the shedding going?
Jacob, any signs of regrowth? Sprouts here and there or anything?

Also, are you two using the 5-14 day vitamin thing as well?
by perga
Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:43 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: DERMATOPOIETIN- 30% off Christmas sale
Replies: 7
Views: 4296

Re: DERMATOPOIETIN- 30% off Christmas sale

UGH, I bought this too. I don't plan on using it for a while though....
by perga
Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:26 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: So many new ingredients, any sort of concensus yet?
Replies: 11
Views: 5974

Re: So many new ingredients, any sort of concensus yet?

I'm not saying these products are perfect, or everything I could ever want. I'm BEGGING for a product that is EFFECTIVE and side effect free. I'm not even asking for a cure. All I want is something that provides considerable regrowth... even if I had to apply it twice a day and it smelled like diarr...
by perga
Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:44 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: So many new ingredients, any sort of concensus yet?
Replies: 11
Views: 5974

Re: So many new ingredients, any sort of concensus yet?

i put minox on my head 3 times and nearly died of a heart attack
by perga
Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:19 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Thymosin beta 4
Replies: 171
Views: 131934

Re: Thymosin beta 4

So these injections are generating new follicles Histogen style? And this product is already purchasable? I can't even keep up with all the new stuff coming out -- kind of gives me hope that we're on track for some breakthroughs soon.
by perga
Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:25 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells
Replies: 131
Views: 121631

Re: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells

I ended up getting this. I'm basically copying your topical regimen Jacob haha.
by perga
Thu Nov 26, 2009 8:10 am
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells
Replies: 131
Views: 121631

Re: Lamas- Chinese Herbs Regenerating Scalp Serum- w/apple stem cells

ahh okay cool.

do you know if Elsom has any plans for a black friday sale? I thought they offered a buy one get one free last year around this time (according to a post on their discussion boards)
by perga
Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:07 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: So many new ingredients, any sort of concensus yet?
Replies: 11
Views: 5974

So many new ingredients, any sort of concensus yet?

apple stem cells
stem cell activators
growth factors
telamorase stuff

what is the verdict? is any sound science or trials backing any of these ingredients?
by perga
Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:02 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

One topical per day. I cover my entire NW7 and temple points. Initially I expected the products to last around 7-8 months for 4 bottles (2x juveline + 1x xtreme + 1x nanoscalp), but I started using a couple more squirts than I was in the beginning, so now I expect 5-6 months for 4 bottles.
by perga
Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:02 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

Yeah I still use super zix. I'm going to maintain my current regiment for another few months at least, and when I feel it has done all the good it can I plan on experimenting with other topicals (first on my list is the Lamas one) and I will be replacing super zix with that. My time on zix = 3 month...
by perga
Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:16 am
Forum: General Hair Loss Discussions
Topic: mixing fin. and dutas.
Replies: 3
Views: 2619

Re: mixing fin. and dutas.

IMO going insane on internal 5AR inhibitors isn't going to do anything but make your dong limp. I think a reasonable dosage internal 5AR inhibitor and topicals are a much better idea.
by perga
Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:52 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: My Elsom Topicals Review
Replies: 65
Views: 61953

Re: My Elsom Topicals Review

Update.

So I cut my hair down to a number 8 again, and I must say... my hair is improving tremendously. Compared to about 2 or 3 months ago it's definitely moving in the right direction. I would say I am fast approaching no visible baldness even to my own eyes, which are like laser guided bald detectors.

I've taken a couple photos I will upload later. There is visible improvement, but IMO it doesn't tell the whole story.

I'm still hopeful for further improvement though, and would not be satisfied if my hair stopped where it is.

So, do I recommend the topicals? Yes, with a but. If you read my whole regimen above, I do a ridiculous amount of %&$! to try to keep my hair. I think every part of my regimen plays a role, and I don't think using any one of them alone would be near as effective as the entire regimen. That said, I think Elsom topicals has had the most impact in terms of recovery.
by perga
Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:47 pm
Forum: General Hair Loss Discussions
Topic: Best Hair Products for Daytime
Replies: 10
Views: 44152

Re: Best Hair Products for Daytime

How does the styling cream leave your hair? Is it stiff/gelled looking? Also, is this serum nanosomal at all? What is the delivery method?
by perga
Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:53 am
Forum: General Hair Loss Discussions
Topic: Best Hair Products for Daytime
Replies: 10
Views: 44152

Re: Best Hair Products for Daytime

Do you know of any sales on the Lamas stuff Jacob? I'm thinking of dumping Nioxin for a different shampoo. Also, what steps in the whole hair loss line do you use from Lamas? I'm thinking of doing the shampoo + conditioner + the scalp serum.
by perga
Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:49 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: What Happened to Elsom Websites?
Replies: 2
Views: 1852

What Happened to Elsom Websites?

All the domains they use are down and have been for a couple days. If they went out of business I'm going to lose my mind. Jacob? Any info?
by perga
Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:02 pm
Forum: Experimental and/or Alternate Treatments and Products Discussions
Topic: Dermatopoietin-activates expression of all skin tissue relevant growth and differentiation factors like HGF, KGF and TNF-alpha
Replies: 181
Views: 284339

Re: Dermatopoietin-activates expression of all skin tissue relevant growth and differentiation factors like HGF, KGF and TNF-alpha

IMO you guys really need to be careful with these growth factor products. Damn near everything in the body has negative feedback loops, and multiple sources have already confirmed they exist for the growth factors in these products.

What does that mean? That means your body will stop producing natural growth factors, and in addition, it will likely down regulate the number of cellular receptors ... which means what? More and more product will be needed for the same effect, and eventually no amount of product will be able to counter the lack of receptors... then your hair is in for some %&$!, and whatever else depends on these growth factor receptors is also in for some %&$!.

It might even be BENEFICIAL (long term) to take time between applications. If your body has "time off" between growth factor applications it might not down regulate cellular receptors at all, and so later down the road, you will continue to have success because you haven't grown resistant, while those who pound the product day after day will do better initially and crash later on. Slow but steady fellas....