Capillogain® Tonic

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:56 am

photo from the user Minox86

Mon, 18 February 2013 17:39
http://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/mv/msg/22549/0/80/
http://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php/fa/11329/

KOJAK · Post by **KOJAK** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:59 pm

Hi Synthese, nice picture.Hope it will work the same way for me.
I was wondering if you went to the International FUE hair transplantation congress in Berlin last Septembre ?
They presented a new product called Keraten Retard, supposingly a serious alternative to Finasterid.
I wanted to have your thought about this product, if you've ever heard of it, beacause with cappilogain, it should be a nice combo.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:58 pm

KOJAK wrote:Hi Synthese, nice picture.Hope it will work the same way for me.
I wanted ton ask you if you went to the International FUE hair transplantation congress in Berlin last Septembre ?
They presented a new product called Kereaten Retard, supposingly an serious alternative to Finasterid.
I wanted to have your thought about this product, if you've ever heard of, beacause, with cappilogain, it should be a nice combo.

I was not at that congress.
I am not sure which product you mean. Do you mean Keratene? Please give me a link to the product you have in mind.

However, I prefer to not comment on other products too much.

KOJAK · Post by **KOJAK** » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:13 pm

Yes it is Keratene : http://www.keratene.com/keratene-retard ... sules.html

I know there's beta sitosterol inside (which I don't think is a game changer) but they stay very discreet on the other ingredients.
So maybe if you were there during the presentation you could help me to find that list, but as you wasn't, never mind....
But if other guys have some info about this product, I take it.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:06 am

KOJAK wrote:Yes it is Keratene : http://www.keratene.com/keratene-retard ... sules.html

I know there's beta sitosterol inside (which I don't think is a game changer) but they stay very discreet on the other ingredients.
So maybe if you were there during the presentation you could help me to find that list, but as you wasn't, never mind....
But if other guys have some info about this product, I take it.

I wonder how they manage to stay so discrete/abstract about their ingredients

I guess they have to name them at least in the INCI list on the bottle.
So you have to find somebody who already bought this.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:33 am

I wonder if we should add a tyrosinase activator in order to get the less pigmented first vellus hair wave more pigmented.

Capillogain doesn´t depigment the hairs, otherwise all hairs would get less pigmented and not only the new vellus hairs.
I guess the little pigmentation of the vellus hairs for some users is due to the circumstance that these hairs didn´t produce any hair for a very long time and it takes more time and maybe a second cycle to "wake up" the stem cells for the melanocytes, but that is speculative. Users like israelite already had tiny vellus hairs at the beginning, their melanocytes were already "awake".

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:37 am

new review at amazon from the user "2010n", quote:

"5.0 out of 5 stars solid product February 18, 2013
By 2010n
Amazon Verified Purchase
Been using this since it came out. About to finish my 3rd bottle and have seen growth along the hairline and basically no hairfall. Ditched minoxidil for this and am completely happy.

ps: the person who posted the pics uses everything under the sun so take his "results" with a grain of salt."

http://www.amazon.com/Capillogain%C2%AE ... apillogain

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:40 am

This is a topical but can it leak into the body? I have been trying to get all my hormones balanced after many years on propecia and my DHT was going up and since I used this it went back down again. I don't mind DHT being low as long as it is in the ref range and not alot lower

Hordini · Post by **Hordini** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:46 am

Wait, you test your DHT regularly and the levels dropped after you started Cap?

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:21 pm

I got it test 3 times since July when I stopped propecia, first it was 7 then the next test the end of September DHT went up to 19 and now the blood test 2/4 it went down to 7 but my total test went up from 270 to 288 and now 350 and I'm on my second bottle of this.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:58 pm

ChuckP wrote:This is a topical but can it leak into the body? I have been trying to get all my hormones balanced after many years on propecia and my DHT was going up and since I used this it went back down again. I don't mind DHT being low as long as it is in the ref range and not alot lower

What you observed may have the following reason.
Fin lowers DHT and the body "notices" this reduction in androgen signal and tries to compensate for it with an increased testosterone production. This increased testosterone serum level is also the reason why Fin is on the doping list for athletes. When you stopped Fin, your DHT level increased. But it increased beyond your normal level because your body still produced more testosterone due to the Fin history. It takes some time for the body to adjust to the new situation and "notice" that there is plenty of DHT and therefore androgen signal present again which in turn led by negative feedback loops to a reduction of the testosterone production which in turn lowered your DHT serum level again to your normal level, that is without Fin. This process might have taken place parallel to your topical application and therefore may be a temporal coincidence.
Ask your physician if your DHT level is in the reference range or significantly below normal.
Your body may need some time to find a new hormonal balance after that long time with Fin.
I remember when I stopped Fin I got a huge acne problem for a while.
Seasonal changes can alter the hormone levels, too. Also take a look at your food and supplements.
However, although your observation is unlikely to a topical, you may want to pause the topical in the future for a while and check your levels again. But better wait for a while before you do that; likely your levels will normalize again anyway. However, it is best to ask your physician for advice.

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:13 pm

My first test was 2 weeks after stopping propecia and was at 7, the next test it went up to 19 and now this one at 7 again which is very low, ref range is 16-79 and my total test never was high on propecia it actually lowered it and the only thing I take now is DHEA, zinc and a multi.....gonna start some test booster soon to see if I can get my total test up higher then 340.....I'm 33 years old

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:32 pm

Where there blood test with the people testing this topical before selling it?

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:52 pm

ChuckP wrote:Where there blood test with the people testing this topical before selling it?

No. It is a cosmetical product for topical application.

Ineq · Post by **Ineq** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:41 am

Is there much hope in the near future of there being an affordable way to get Capillogain shipped to Australia? I'd like to try using it, but Amazon won't send it here, and I'm not paying 25 euros for shipping from your web site.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:47 am

Please take a look at the new report of the user "mires" on HLH:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... lastunread

Quotes:

02/20/2013 12:21 AM
"I've now been using Capillogain tonic for a bit over two months and my verdict is: For me Capillogain does work at least a lot better than 5% Kirkland Minoxidil

I will try and update later on today with high resolution pictures of the regrowth I've experienced after being on Cap for a few months. The *only* change I've done to my regimen is that I have replaced my morning minox application with cap and it has given me significant visible regrowth in my temples after just a couple of months. I have enough cap in my fridge to last me until the end of this year so I'm very excited over what kind of results it can give in a year.

I've been fighting my hair loss since october 2011 and I have had pretty much zero regrowth in the border areas of my temples (I was almost a classic pattern NW5 when I began treatment) until I began using cap. The "new" hairs in my temples are pigmented but they're still so thin and short that they aren't visible at a distance. I'm of course hoping that time will change that.

Oh and I am applying Capillogain all over my NW5 -area but my temples are the only areas where I am noticing a change so far at least. I'd assume that cap is having a positive effect on the other areas as well but since I already had some hairs on the rest of my NW5 area when I began using cap it is a lot more difficult to monitor the progress there."

02/20/2013 01:15 AM
"I know it is a bold claim and one you shouldn't make lightly on hair loss forums but the fact is that I had seen virtually zero results in the border areas of my temples until recently. I'll post high-res pictures later on to support my claim. My results with Capillogain aren't quite as dramatic as marklc2004's but his hair loss hasn't been as bad as mine.

The areas I am talking about began balding 12 years ago and were slick bald already 8 years ago. So seeing regrowth in those areas is a big success for me.

Also, I take back some of what I said in that I can not actually claim that it works better than minoxidil because I still am using minoxidil in the evening. Before cap I used minox 2x per day, now just once. To actually be certain of it working better than plain generic minoxidil I would need to completely stop using Kirkland and switch to 2x Cap applications /day."

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:08 am

Ineq wrote:Is there much hope in the near future of there being an affordable way to get Capillogain shipped to Australia? I'd like to try using it, but Amazon won't send it here, and I'm not paying 25 euros for shipping from your web site.

Yes, the international shipping costs are a downer indeed.
We hope to sell in Australia soon via
http://dstore.com/

israelite · Post by **israelite** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:22 am

here is weekly update:

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:07 pm

new photos from "mires" at HLH:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... lastunread
02/20/2013 12:47 PM

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:35 am

new photo posted by "Simon" at HLH:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... lastunread
02/21/2013 11:12 PM
Quote:
"I'll try to take some new pictures with the same lighting, hair length and angle, and post them here soon for comparison with the first picture I posted.

Like I said before, this S**T really work.

Here is a picture I just took."

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/atta ... &forumid=1
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In this thread "Simon" posted some "before" photos, but he used some other stuff, too:

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... ight_key=y

Aks20 · Post by **Aks20** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:20 pm

Ok, jumped on the Capillogain bandwagon. Still scared of sheds and the Minox effect, i.e. if i stop, my hair will shed even more drastically. But hopefully, this product is safe, wont have any long term sides & we can continue to use it. Initial impressions - it smells like I put Mustard sauce on my head. I dont mind that and definitely PREFER it to irritating perfumes which cause eyes and skin to itch/irritate/burn.

Hi Synthese, can you confirm the above? That a) its safe for long term use given the different ingredients in it and b) Traminodil in the above is too less to make it Minox like?

Also, c) can this product be used along with Nanogen Serum (VEGF growth factor + ciclapirox olamine), Neogenic & Emu Oil.
I hope to add Nanogen as well, since Neogenic did work for me & Emu oil is supposed to soothe the skin.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:06 am

Aks20 wrote:Ok, jumped on the Capillogain bandwagon. Still scared of sheds and the Minox effect, i.e. if i stop, my hair will shed even more drastically. But hopefully, this product is safe, wont have any long term sides & we can continue to use it. Initial impressions - it smells like I put Mustard sauce on my head. I dont mind that and definitely PREFER it to irritating perfumes which cause eyes and skin to itch/irritate/burn.

Hi Synthese, can you confirm the above? That a) its safe for long term use given the different ingredients in it and b) Traminodil in the above is too less to make it Minox like?

Also, c) can this product be used along with Nanogen Serum (VEGF growth factor + ciclapirox olamine), Neogenic & Emu Oil.
I hope to add Nanogen as well, since Neogenic did work for me & Emu oil is supposed to soothe the skin.

a) We used it for about 6 months so far; no problems occurred so far. Some people experience a mild shed at the beginning but usually less than with Minox products.

b) The current concentration of Triaminodil in Capillogain Tonic is 0.5%.

c) Capillogain Tonic can be used parallel with other products but don´t mix them in one bottle, that may destroy the vehicle of Capillogain Tonic. Apply Capillogain Tonic first since it absorbs well and leaves virtually no residue on the skin while other products may hinder the absorption of Capillogain Tonic.
You should ask that company if their VEGF is stable in their solution. I asked them by phone and their answer was: "You have to buy first ..."
Maybe you get a more informative answer to that question.

tinytim · Post by **tinytim** » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:23 am

i have got some 5% ru58841 and am wondering whether to restart capil or go back onto minoxidil as i have also ceased using finasteride due to it not doing nothing for hair loss in my case in fact my shedding increases using it.
I have some keratene retard but got pains in my belly is this a side affect? so i will use a topical antiandrogen ru and as said capil or minox i do know one thing look at hairloss help and el du who has been on ru and minox and he has used it for many years now and he dropped finasteride as well.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:45 am

to "teenwolf" and "gunmaster" from HLH

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... lastunread

I wonder why the positive reports and photos by "mires" and "Simon" triggered your %&$! storm on Mark.

You accuse Mark to always show the same photos with the same results and no difference. I doubt you have a good overview on all his photos. Therefore please take a look at our testimonials page where we gathered the comments, photos, and videos on Capillogain Tonic:

http://www.functional-products.net/prod ... tonic.html

You can find the photos of Mark there, too.

http://www.functional-products.net/index.php?id=132

Compare his photos.
His photos from
Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:36 pm
http://www.functional-products.net/index.php?id=137
http://www.functional-products.net/index.php?id=138

His photo from
Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:16 am
http://www.functional-products.net/index.php?id=140

His photos from
Wed Feb 13, 2013
http://www.functional-products.net/index.php?id=178
http://www.functional-products.net/index.php?id=179

There is clearly an improvement visible; the vellus hairs became longer and maybe even the density increased. He documented his progress very well and his photos are not "pretty %&$!".

"teenwolf" you seem to bash everything except the big three and oh yeah well your private favorite benoxaprofen.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... ight_key=y

Quote:
"but if it was available i think i would try topical benoxaprofen..the hair growth from those photos is really impressive and the reports of full regrowth of hair on the drug makes it promising, problem is, the drug was pulled off the market as they said long term use could be toxic, regardless, i would be willing to use it for at least a few months topically, its mw is low enough, i dont see why it wouldnt work topically and would prevent most systemic absorption , problem is, its no longer available."

You may want to know that benoxaprofen causes photosensitivity and increases the risk of Melanoma:
Title:
"Melanoma diagnosed 27 years after a benoxaprofen-induced photosensitivity reaction"

http://www.jdcr.eu/index.php?journal=jd ... .2012.1087

Quote:
"The propionic acid derivative Benoxaprofen was introduced for the treatment of rheumatic disorders in 1980. Its product license was then withdrawn 2 years later due to concerns over serious dermatologic, hepatic and renal side effects. Photosensitivity was the most common side effect with reported incidence of up to 50%."

serious dermatologic concerns ... 50% incidence from oral route ... and you want to use it topically ? ^^
Don´t do it.

Aks20 · Post by **Aks20** » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:37 am

Thanks Synthese, fingers crossed and a prayer in my thoughts & on my lips, that this works.

BTW, how long is the average "wait time" before folks saw results? Any idea.

Cob984 · Post by **Cob984** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:34 am

Guys can someone please comment on the sides like minox?
I had terrible sides on minox , even on 2% had heart palpitations, face bloating, dark circles,
Anyone here had them on minox but not on cap? appreciate feedback,
Also how do you pay for this stuff? Was unable to do so using paypal on their official website

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:34 am

Cob984 wrote:Guys can someone please comment on the sides like minox?
I had terrible sides on minox , even on 2% had heart palpitations, face bloating, dark circles,
Anyone here had them on minox but not on cap? appreciate feedback,
Also how do you pay for this stuff? Was unable to do so using paypal on their official website

You can read user reports here:

http://www.functional-products.net/prod ... tonic.html

The page contains the links to the original comments of the users.
Most people don´t experience sides.

Capillogain is available at different amazon stores:

http://www.amazon.com/Capillogain%C2%AE ... apillogain
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Capillogain%C2% ... 082&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.de/CAPILLOGAIN-Anti-H ... 208&sr=8-1

Cob984 · Post by **Cob984** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 4:40 am

Thanks for the link,
still doesnt address my original question of people who had bad sides on minox, most people on there dont have minox sides or have the skin sides,
my sides were way worse including heart palpitations and dizziness, i would like to know if these individuals have avoided sides on cap

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:48 am

Cob984 wrote:Thanks for the link,
still doesnt address my original question of people who had bad sides on minox, most people on there dont have minox sides or have the skin sides,
my sides were way worse including heart palpitations and dizziness, i would like to know if these individuals have avoided sides on cap

My answer did address your question. You have to read all the reports on the testimonials page. I will copy some of the reports for you which address your question:

"hungrylikethewolf"
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/mess ... lastunread
02/23/2013 04:49 PM
"Still maintaining and just overall thickening. I do see some small hair popping up in the hair line but its not going to be enough to make a cosmetic difference. I know only a transplant can give me that but I would say its a good minoxidil substitute without side effects. I have been shedding a little more since I quit Neogenic."

read all reports of the user "kery":
http://www.functional-products.net/index.php?id=133

"humboldt"
http://www.alopezie.de/fud/index.php?t=msg&goto=253989
translation attempt:
"It is difficult to apply Capillogain more than 1x daily. I use it in the evening and leave it on overnight, anything else won´t work. The smell is subterrestrial, no comparison to e.g. Regaine foam where you can go even out of the house because it has the positive side effect to style your hairs like a mousse and in addition it smells rather pleasant. But Minox foam 5% gives me headaches, pug face respectively a swollen face and I get signs of fatigue. I don´t get these side effects from Capillogain.."

KOJAK · Post by **KOJAK** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:32 pm

I'm using it since one month and a half now, and for the moment nothing to report unless my hairline is clearly worth than before. For the vertex no change.
I had a shedding the 2nd and 3rd week application but it is fairly reduced now even if I'm still loosing hairs.

Regarding the sides, I had some very minor headhachs during the first week, but they vanished quite rapidly. However, I get dry eyes sometime which is clearly a minox side effect, and that's a little bit more annoying.
Some hich apprear from from time to time as well but they disapear quicky, weird...

I apply it only once/day now during the night, as it leaves a greasy sensation on my scalp.
Something to note, I have the bad second batch, the one which hasn't been made by Synthese, but still a capillogain batch though with same formula inside. So I will stick to this until I receive my new one.

Hope this treatment will work to cover the visual impact of the shedding...

Fizzball · Post by **Fizzball** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:08 pm

Another good store to distribute your product would be http://www.biovea-australia.com/
I don't think they are based in Australia but I have used them many times before without issue.

As far as results go this tonic is performing as expected given the results I have seen, I have opted to exclude mark from my analysis due to the fact that he is on broad range of products which may be also assisting in his growth, unfortunately for him when it comes to min/maxing his intake he most likely won't know where to start without making an error here or there.
No offense intended to anyone of coarse but this tonic needs to be tested much more in a somewhat controlled environment by people that aren't overly involved in testing other products at the same time.

My suspicion is that this product is a cut above the rest however how high above remains to be seen but I guess in time we shall find out.

One thing that I will say is that this tonic needs to have a stable ingredients list and remove any batch variants from the market as it is just creating confusion and apprehension amongst potential buyers much to the same as info/instructions.

KOJAK · Post by **KOJAK** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 3:42 pm

Biovea is the largest online retailer for buying supplements, vitamins, fitness products etc... They bought the license to sell in different country over the world.
I used to buy on biovea.fr when I was in France before moving to Canada, and I never had any trouble.
Those guys are 100% legit.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:15 pm

KOJAK wrote:Biovea is the largest online retailer for buying supplements, vitamins, fitness products etc... They bought the license to sell in different country over the world.
I used to buy on biovea.fr when I was in France before moving to Canada, and I never had any trouble.
Those guys are 100% legit.

We already contacted Biovea some time ago. No response yet.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:28 pm

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:31 pm

KOJAK wrote:I'm using it since one month and a half now, and for the moment nothing to report unless my hairline is clearly worth than before. For the vertex no change.
I had a shedding the 2nd and 3rd week application but it is fairly reduced now even if I'm still loosing hairs.

Regarding the sides, I had some very minor headhachs during the first week, but they vanished quite rapidly. However, I get dry eyes sometime which is clearly a minox side effect, and that's a little bit more annoying.
Some hich apprear from from time to time as well but they disapear quicky, weird...

I apply it only once/day now during the night, as it leaves a greasy sensation on my scalp.
Something to note, I have the bad second batch, the one which hasn't been made by Synthese, but still a capillogain batch though with same formula inside. So I will stick to this until I receive my new one.

Hope this treatment will work to cover the visual impact of the shedding...

I don´t know why you haven´t received your new bottle yet. I again asked my colleague to do it if he hasn´t done it already.

Aks20 · Post by **Aks20** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:39 pm

My initial impressions post 1 week of use are positive. I will give it 2 more weeks before posting a review. I am using shampoo and the tonic.

KOJAK · Post by **KOJAK** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:49 pm

I don´t know why you haven´t received your new bottle yet. I again asked my colleague to do it if he hasn´t done it already.

It took a while the first time as well. I think it should arrive very soon.

Rs15 · Post by **Rs15** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:37 am

Is Losnr. 3120005 worthless or does it still work? I ordered two bottles from amazon recently and I got that number on both my bottles. Im pretty sure the problem was discovered before I ordered why did I still get a bad batch?

KOJAK · Post by **KOJAK** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:48 am

Yeah I was really disapointed too. But the problem is mostly that it's not well disolved, and that's the main reason why it leaves a greasy residue. You can clearly see that the liquid is not homogeneous, as you can see clear parts and trouble parts with particles inside.
Regarding the efficiency, I don't think it affects it's power, or at least not very much. The major problem is the vehicule which in my opinion is not good .
Normaly I should be able to see in the next couple of weeks if it works or not. If the shed hair regrow stronger, that will mean that it works.
But for the moment, hairline is not good looking, but minox always buz my hair before doing anyting, so wait and see....

Rs15 · Post by **Rs15** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:57 am

What date was this bad batch discovered on?

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:33 am

There was a communication problem inside our company. I misunderstood my colleagues. They informed me now that they think the batch 5 is ok and there is no need to replace the bottles. So the action is cancelled. Sorry for the confusion.

Friday · Post by **Friday** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:49 am

SyntheseLabRat wrote:There was a communication problem inside our company. I misunderstood my colleagues. They informed me now that they think the batch 5 is ok and there is no need to replace the bottles. So the action is cancelled. Sorry for the confusion.

Well, the content of my new bottle does look very different from the content in the bottle from batch 5. In batch 5 there was these small sort of flakes in it. Are you completely sure?? I'd really hate it if I just wasted an entire month with this.

Rs15 · Post by **Rs15** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:52 am

I can see the flakes in mine too. It doesnt look completly dissolved.

KOJAK · Post by **KOJAK** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:08 am

There was a communication problem inside our company. I misunderstood my colleagues. They informed me now that they think the batch 5 is ok and there is no need to replace the bottles. So the action is cancelled. Sorry for the confusion.

And no one is capable to inform us about that ? I received a message telling that 2 bottles will be sent, and I really hope they will be, as this batch is clearly not good.
If it's not the case, I will be very disapointed... So please solve the communication problem between you and clarify this once for all.
Thank you.

SyntheseLabRat · Post by **SyntheseLabRat** » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:05 am

KOJAK wrote:
There was a communication problem inside our company. I misunderstood my colleagues. They informed me now that they think the batch 5 is ok and there is no need to replace the bottles. So the action is cancelled. Sorry for the confusion.
And no one is capable to inform us about that ? I received a message telling that 2 bottles will be sent, and I really hope they will be, as this batch is clearly not good.
If it's not the case, I will be very disapointed... So please solve the communication problem between you and clarify this once for all.
Thank you.

Your bottles are on their way as far as I know as part of our normal obligingness service. But it is better if you use our contact email to ask directly because I am not a reliable source for information anymore.

Friday · Post by **Friday** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:08 am

As a diffuse thinner I find this way harder to get to the scalp than minox. This sort of collects around the hair and clings to the hair instead of running down on the scalp. I end up using way more that the 3ml per application. If anyone found a trick to get it to the scalp easier, I'd really like to know.

Rs15 · Post by **Rs15** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:17 am

Im seriously thinking about throwing away my bottles and go back to minox. This batch might be useless and I dont get any reply from them either. I want new bottles because its clearly something wrong with it!

Friday · Post by **Friday** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:15 am

Rs15 wrote:Im seriously thinking about throwing away my bottles and go back to minox. This batch might be useless and I dont get any reply from them either. I want new bottles because its clearly something wrong with it!

Read what he wrote in his last post: "Your bottles are on their way as far as I know as part of our normal obligingness service. But it is better if you use our contact email to ask directly because I am not a reliable source for information anymore."

Did you contact them by email? I sent them an email friday the 1st of march, and I hope to hear from them this week. But there seem to be lots of misunderstandings and bad communication within the company judging from some of the posts in the thread. That aside, I will continue using this along side with minox.

israelite · Post by **israelite** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:14 pm

they should notify every who got this batch! the first batch was good no need to experiment.

Friday · Post by **Friday** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:47 am

israelite wrote:they should notify every who got this batch! the first batch was good no need to experiment.

I got this batch a month ago, and I haven't been notified.. oh, and I don't think anyone's experimenting, I'm using minox and capillogain, I'm not mixing it together..

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