jksl wrote:This shed is getting ridiculous. I don't know how much more of this i can handle. Right now, i'm losing about 80+ hairs in the shower a day which is more than i ever lost on a nizoral shed of 60. After my TE/AE slowed down last year, i now "normally" shed around 40-50. About the first 10 days of starting treatment, i was down to under 10 hairs lost in the shower a day.
I'm worried that i'm overstimulating since the majority of hairs i'm losing now are the thick and medium-thick ones. A lot of the thick hairs i'm losing are half an inch long, but i'm wondering if those hairs are the ones i'm losing from the sides and back (i am thinning and losing globally).
I think my main issue may be a zinc deficiency as i seem to be losing hair on my body as well. This shed could just be a coincidence from that. I don't know. I am tempted to reduce treatment times though..
NeverQuit wrote:Today is my 5 months mark for LLLT and I have lost probably 25% of my hair in the last 3 weeks. Problem is I have very fine short blonde hair, so I can never tell when it falls. So I guess this HAS to be a shed, to loose this much so fast. All I can do is hang on and ride it out and hope for the best. LLLT is still fairly new, so all of us into the 5-6 month mark with these sheds may just come back stronger than the baseline! Let's hope.
The only thing that is disheartening, is that I have not heard from ANYONE using LLLT who fell below baseline with a major shed and then grew it back to baseline or more. I'm not talking the..."oh I see some vellus hairs popping up all over" or " I think it's turning around, my hair seems thicker" I'm talking. " that was the worst shed ever, but it all came back".
Either this is because it's so new so we need to wait for more users and time in - OR -.....????
If ANYONE out there had a major shed 4-6 months into LLLT and had it all come back then PLEASE speak up so we can be encouraged. If not, then some of us should look at varying time and frequency of use or other factors.
LaserKid wrote:I've been reading quite a bit over at the Hairmax forums, and it seems a lot of people go through a shed phase even with that underpowered device. There's a guy over there called Rob who posts quite a bit. He's been saying that it took 7months for his shedding to stop ... 7 months! But, he hung in there and is finally getting results. Other people say they go through phases of shedding, then no shedding. There are a lot of posts over at the forum if anyone wants to go and read. A few negative, a few positive. A lot of the newer posts have been answered by Lexington, which is nice!
jksl wrote:Okay, i've had enough. I'm going to go with my gut instinct and reduce treatment time to 10 minutes every other day. It's really difficult to believe that this shed is par for the course. I let my hair grow out a bit and i'm losing plenty of thick 1 inch hairs. Maybe i need to get on that clay. Also, my supplements (zinc, biotin, etc.) arrived. Here's hoping that they'll help me.
jksl wrote:I never used minoxidil and fin. I'm only using a 415 laser helmet. The shed is pissing me off because i had improvement very early on and now i'm worse than baseline.
Jedder wrote:I think it is interesting that laser clinics can provide good results using the 3 x 20 mins or less per week..........and they are using a lot less lasers to achieve this. It is my opinion that more lasers without reducing treatment time is over stimulation in many cases. As is the case with many things in life - less is sometimes more
Jedder wrote:The factors that made me change my treatment times...........increased shedding, a sunburn feeling on my scalp at around the 13, 14 minute mark.......and sometimes a feeling of light headedness.
I reduced my times to 13/14 mins twice a week, shedding has stopped and things are looking better.
Dr. Watt wrote:Jedder wrote:My shedding stopped when I changed my times as well. I don't think I have recovered any hair from the large shed yet but my hair is acting healthy again and I am happy about that.
NeverQuit wrote:I am totally confused on what to do now. Am I overstimulated? Is it causing it? I think I will be the guinee pig for us non responders and stop cold turkey until Christmas. If I get any thickening by then, I know it has something to do with LLLT. I may even try 5 minute sessions twice a week and see if something improves. Certainly that little amount of time can't cause overstimulation .
Lastly, if for some reason I was in an overstimulation state for the 7.5 months which was causing the loss, and cutting down times brings me back to normal, have I caused irreversible damage? I realize this is a much debated contraversial topic, but what if????
LaserKid wrote:Hey Dr Watt, when u were shedding hairs, were they just from the areas u were treating with laser or were u also shedding hairs from the sides as well?
Thanks for the advice about starting laser treatment. I myself am in the process of building a cluster to treat my thinning hair. I'm gonna start at a low time, say 10 x 3, and then maybe up by a few mins every month till I reach 20 x 3. Obviously depends on whether I am seeing any results or not!
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